tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8288194986820249216.post4546014247700210604..comments2024-03-22T05:09:17.789-07:00Comments on Abstract Heresies: I hate LispJoe Marshallhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03233353484280456977noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8288194986820249216.post-42819001894426050342009-03-04T10:16:00.000-08:002009-03-04T10:16:00.000-08:00funny post ;) thank youfunny post ;) thank youMurat Ozgur Kaymakcihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10618219481434116143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8288194986820249216.post-68950866132882907832009-03-04T06:46:00.000-08:002009-03-04T06:46:00.000-08:00In C, you are writing assembly constructs disguise...In C, you are writing assembly constructs disguised as a high level language.<BR/><BR/>In lisp, you are writing compiler constructs (abstract syntax trees) disguised as a high level language.<BR/><BR/>Assembly language targets hardware-oriented geeks. Lisp targets compiler-oriented geeks. Since the two don't (generally) understand the other's viewpoint, each hates the other's favorite language.gvbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02289128357770166585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8288194986820249216.post-84595963038808737952009-03-04T03:41:00.000-08:002009-03-04T03:41:00.000-08:00Each time you use "CAR" and "CDR" in Lisp, you act...Each time you use "CAR" and "CDR" in Lisp, you actually refer to IBM 70x register acess... pretty close to the hardware actually ! :-)La fourmihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04676384809650206118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8288194986820249216.post-16812438986863353062009-03-03T21:49:00.000-08:002009-03-03T21:49:00.000-08:00When I first came across lisp I just love it. Cute...When I first came across lisp I just love it. Cute story though ^_^Patrick Xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06018604111140642708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8288194986820249216.post-80466254932588669392009-03-03T20:59:00.000-08:002009-03-03T20:59:00.000-08:00I love oranges. Mm mm good. Boy o boy, do I lov...I love oranges. Mm mm good. Boy o boy, do I love oranges. they are so... so... orange-y. <BR/><BR/>Somebody once gave me an apple... I hate apples. You know why? 'Cause they're not ORANGES!! Stupid fricken not-orange thingies...<BR/><BR/>Whoever it is that invented Apples doesn't know A THING about inventing oranges... and we hatess itss precious...spongefrobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17751641689782496990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8288194986820249216.post-27002039503415024962009-03-03T19:39:00.000-08:002009-03-03T19:39:00.000-08:00Regarding LISP and pointers: I guess LISt Processi...Regarding LISP and pointers: I guess LISt Processing was not obvious enough for some people ;-)<BR/><BR/>In any case, LISP like most functional languages seem a bit foreign to a lot of people. I did not appreciate LISP until I started figuring out, how with a couple of lines in LISP... I could achieve the same result that required an order of magnitude (or more) of extra code in procedural languages.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07525785990907181027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8288194986820249216.post-34393160904771488282009-03-03T17:14:00.000-08:002009-03-03T17:14:00.000-08:00Some Lisps suck... some don't and someone hates ea...Some Lisps suck... some don't and someone hates each of them. Lots has changed in the last 40 or so years of Lisping. Its good to hear about 'the good old days' because modern lispers coming from VB or Java are likely to not even notice the fact that lisp uses lots of pointers.TheArthurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08700128201033689563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8288194986820249216.post-23501927309338466212009-03-03T14:52:00.000-08:002009-03-03T14:52:00.000-08:00Beautiful troll. Love it :-)Beautiful troll. Love it :-)Daniel Tennerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07118792955515001306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8288194986820249216.post-74834781623529043552009-03-03T14:17:00.000-08:002009-03-03T14:17:00.000-08:00I didn't take the collage route, I started coding ...I didn't take the collage route, I started coding out of school, my first projects were written in assembler on z80 machines, I have been coding for 30 years, I found lisp 6 years ago, I'm very sad I didn't learn it earlier. <BR/><BR/>As seems to be the way, as an outcast I try to evangelize, I have so far turned 3 people to the dark side, 2 learned lisp in collage, and didn't see the point to go back, but now understand the point.<BR/><BR/>I think I'm a smart guy, in the areas I have worked I have worked for the top companies, I even did a stint at the evil software place. it took me around 2 years to get it, now I use lisp when ever I can.Rack Mounthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00748563757781091134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8288194986820249216.post-24501316962632695732009-03-03T13:00:00.000-08:002009-03-03T13:00:00.000-08:00My first college programming course used PL/I (at ...My first college programming course <BR/>used PL/I (at Brown, with Andy van Dam).<BR/>I thought programming was kind of fun,<BR/>but not the sort of serious activity <BR/>one should devote time to in college.<BR/><BR/>I didn't really program again for another <BR/>12 years.<BR/><BR/>-- PaulPaul Stecklerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13416750891822431224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8288194986820249216.post-66583072559742976352009-03-03T10:59:00.000-08:002009-03-03T10:59:00.000-08:00I had already a lot of OO experience with C++ and ...I had already a lot of OO experience with C++ and Java by the time I was first exposed to Scheme. I was going back to school to get an actual degree in CS. The required intro to computer science course was taught in Scheme.<BR/><BR/>Bottom line, I hated it. Hated it, hated it hated it. By the end of the semester, I had come to terms with the language, but I still thought it was silly.<BR/><BR/>Then I spent the next two semesters TAing the same class. Over that year, I slowly developed a grudging respect for Scheme and Lisp, and eventually grew to love them.Richhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04243458955367448042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8288194986820249216.post-52015514244671846012009-03-03T10:45:00.000-08:002009-03-03T10:45:00.000-08:00Interesting. I learned Scheme a bit later than you...Interesting. I learned Scheme a bit later than you learned Lisp, but I had the opposite reaction: Scheme seemed closer to the (register) machine than C, and it seemed like a nice alternative to assembly language.Amithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12159325271882018300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8288194986820249216.post-8970469778447542792009-03-03T09:44:00.000-08:002009-03-03T09:44:00.000-08:00That's pretty funny. I hope it's the first in a se...That's pretty funny. I hope it's the first in a series.<BR/><BR/>I wonder how typical your first experience was, and how the typical first Lisp experience is different today vs. 20 years ago, what with the prominent new books, success stories, failure stories, etc.Xachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04498567730331742642noreply@blogger.com